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Below are the comments from the public about the Southport Drive Roundabout.
Comment:
I live in Hidden Cove, which is right by the roundabout. I read the article in the paper today. And I just wanted to let you know I love the
roundabout. I don't know who
was responsible for putting it in. But
obviously, it's been fun coming out onto Southport from the west side
going east, trying to turn north. I
like it because we all have equal right-of-way and it slows traffic
down. And I think it's great. So anyway, that's my two cents.
Reply: One of the reasons why a roundabout was selected for this
intersection is the number of new homes being constructed in Hidden
Cove. There were only 34 homes in Hidden Cove in
1999. Within 2-3 years, there
will be 101 homes entering Southport Drive from that side.
As traffic grows in this intersection, the value of this
project will become more clear.
Comment:
I use that roundabout twice a day. And
my comment is as an engineering solution for the problem, stronger light
poles, stronger street signs, whatever, more cement in the flower boxes. I think if you see airbags go off over there,
people finally get the word. So
that's what I got to say on it.
Reply: Other modern roundabout conversions in the
U.S. have experienced a temporary rise in the accident rate followed
by a dramatic reduction. In time, we may see similar statistics associated
with this project.
Comment:
I live off Klatt here, not quite Southport. But I drive the little roundabout every day.
And I knew from the start 20 miles was too fast because there's
a lot of idiots out there driving. And they need to slow down. My
biggest complaint is I do work evenings and -- well, morning and evenings.
The city's not been putting in enough sand or ice or whatever
they need to put down on that area there.
So even ten miles an hour, sometimes you have to go slower.
But it could be a little bit larger.
But I think, hopefully, they'll get used to it.
But like I said, there's idiots.
They are the same ones that drive off into the wetlands too.
But yeah, if they could ice it better -- or de-ice it, I should say,
better in the winter, it might be better.
But you might also consider while you're doing it more stop signs. Because once they get through the roundabout,
they're winging down here off Klatt Road up
to Victor and really going quite fast. Maybe even they ought to put some more police
out here like they had a few years ago where they catch some speeders
for a while.
Reply: This modern roundabout is the first one of its kind in
the Anchorage area. Maintenance personnel, as well as drivers,
are learning about this new form of traffic control.
Comment:
I don't know how you decided it or why, but most roundabouts are
about four times as large. You've
created a hazard. And I expect eventually a pedestrian will
be in the middle of the roundabout and a car will come through and probably
hit him. If you're saying that
you think that people will get used to it is fine. But people out of the area that come through
there, all of a sudden hit that intersection and the next thing they're
up and over. And you're going
to have continuing accidents. I
would suggest you rip it out and put the normal street in or make it
four times as large with an actual roundabout, not just a go-around
blockade.
Reply: The design intent was to follow the English model for
modern roundabouts. Traffic circles from other places have design
standards that are different from the intent of the Southport Drive
project. Learn about the differences
between old-style traffic circles and modern roundabouts.
Comment:
This is about the roundabout at Southport.
My mom was wrecked there. And
she's from France and so she's really used to them.
And to us, it's no big deal.
But I did notice -- and it seems that my family thinks the same
thing -- is that the circle seems a little tight, like it's -- I mean,
because we do slide when we go through it.
We try to -- I mean, as far as speed, we make sure that we're
not going too fast and stuff, but it's a little tight for a circle.
And maybe that's part of the problem is that the speed is --
even going slow is still it's a little tight for that circle. But anyway, that was my only comment. And we think it's fine. It's no big deal. But we do see a lot people having problems
with it
Reply: Some modifications are planned for the roundabout
in the summer of 2002 that should clear up those problems. The
central island will be a little larger, and the exits will be a little
more open.
Comment:
I lived in Boston where they have a lot of roundabouts. They are death traps. I say -- they are death traps. The roads are dangerous enough around here.
Somebody needs to drive out and get a clue.
Reply: The design intent was to follow the English model for
modern roundabouts. Traffic circles from other places have design
standards that are different from the intent of the Southport Drive
project. Learn about
the differences between old-style traffic circles and modern roundabouts.
There are not a lot of modern roundabouts in Boston.
However, there are a lot of Old-Style Traffic Circles. Many eastern cities and states are beginning
to convert old-style traffic circles to modern roundabouts. Learn about some case
studies.
Comment:
I think it's a great idea. I
lived in Europe for three years. And
they work great. It beats sitting
at stoplights all day. I think
we ought to have more of them.
Comment:
I just wanted to support the roundabout you have over in Southport. I think it's a wonderful feature. When we were in New Zealand, we used those.
And I thought that the traffic ran very efficiently and much
nicer than stop signs. And I think Alaskans just have to get used
to using them. I think the more
they see them, the more they'll like them.
So I support as many as you want to put in.
Comment:
I'm a police officer. I
go through there quite a bit during the day.
The problem I have with it is that thing in the middle, the planter
or whatever it is, makes it so you can't see across it to see if other
traffic is in the circle. So
I think that, to me anyway, is a big problem with it. You
know, to yield to the traffic, you can't -- especially if you're driving
in -- when I'm in my patrol car, I can't see real well if somebody's
coming from the other direction until right there around the corner. And then it may be too late. I usually go pretty slow, but that's what
I would suggest, if you can lower that thing in the middle so that you
can see or not have anything in the middle at all or, like I said, something
low so that you can see the traffic coming instead of the former.
Reply: Design
guides for modern roundabouts suggest blocking the vision in the middle
of the central island. Entering
a modern roundabout is almost exactly like turning right at a red light. A driver needs to look off to the left, recognize
a gap in traffic, and then proceed.
The vision is blocked across the intersection because that traffic
can not come all the way around the central island in the length of
time required for you to clear the intersection.
The design guides suggest blocking the vision to help prevent
indecision at the YIELD line.
Comment:
I'm a resident in the Southport area.
And I'm finally getting around to responding about the roundabout
at Southport. I am one of those
that is not in favor of the roundabout.
I think the radius is too small.
The lane is too narrow. And
I believe that that planter and the trees in the center make it difficult
to see the intentions of the people that are coming through the intersection. It's poorly used. People don't understand it yet. And that's about the basics. But anyway, I'd love to see it gone.
Comment:
I'm calling about the little roundabout that they built on
Southport. If you're going north on Southport and then
you encounter this roundabout, you're heading right for a light pole. And so I think the light pole ought to be
moved out of the way. People
who come sliding around the circle are going to plow right off the road
into the berm and plow right into the light pole. I think the placement of the light pole is
erroneous. And so you might want
to take a look at that. Also, for your information,
they got those little roundabouts in Mexico City, which has about the
worst traffic in the world. And
they are called gloriettas. And they're neat and everything. But anyhoo, you
might want to go take a look at that.
Reply: The light poles have been a problem for some drivers.
Some modifications are planned for the roundabout in the summer
of 2002 that should clear up those problems. The
central island will be a little larger, and the exits will be a little
more open. The design intent was to follow the
English model for modern roundabouts. Traffic circles from other places, including
Mexico have design standards that are different from the intent of the
Southport Drive project.
Comment:
I'd like to register one vote in favor of the roundabouts. I think they work very well. It's going to take some training and perhaps
they need to be a little bit larger.
But I think they're an excellent way to avoid four-way stops
and to keep traffic moving. And
I think the one at Dowling that's projected is going to be excellent.
Comment:
My husband and I are very much in favor of roundabouts, having
experienced them in Europe. And
we think they would help with pollution, red light running.
We'd like to see way more roundabouts in this town. We tried your little one out in Southport,
thought it was on the small side, a little tight, but still a good start,
and hope that we see more of them.
Comment:
I live out in Southport on Washington Drive.
And just wanted to give a quick comment on the roundabout there. I'm strongly in support of the roundabout.
I think it's been a good addition.
It moves traffic for us getting out onto Southport much better.
Also, for pedestrians trying to walk across Southport Drive, being able
to walk across there as opposed to what used to be there is much better. You know, trying to walk across four lanes
would have been a nightmare. So
it's much safer, I think, for adults or certainly children to go across
there. It feels much safer, a
lot more visibility. Obviously, the folks coming
from the south as we try to get out are not slowing down.
That's the biggest problem is they just flat don't slow down
as they get up to the roundabout there. I don't know if it would be better to have
maybe a flashing light warning them as they are coming up to it both
directions to slow down. But again, for someone living on
Washington like myself, I'm strongly in support of the roundabout.
Comment:
I live on Spindrift Loop and access and use that roundabout every
day going to and from my house. I
don't think we need anymore abundance of signage.
I think personally that signs are really urban clutter. And we've got too many of them already.
So I'd really like not to see a bunch of signs go up to try to
help every idiot that doesn't understand a roundabout. I
think you're much better served or will be much better served by a little
more education to the public by sending out letters to people in the
area and maybe having the Daily News or maybe the State of Alaska, whoever's
responsible, pay for some kind of information in the local paper, be
it the Daily News, the Press and whatever. But I'm really against a
lot of signage. When you first
opened that roundabout, there were some enormous signs on it which made
me want to go out in the middle of the night and take them down. And I don't know if someone went out in the
middle of the night and took them down or not. But before I could really make the phone calls
and send the e-mails, they were taken down and changed. So no to more signs. Yes to more education.
Comment:
I grew up on the East Coast where roundabouts are very, very common. And the only comment I would have about this
roundabout is that it is woefully inadequate compared to the roundabouts
where I grew up because it is about maybe one fourth or one fifth the
normal size of a roundabout. And
I think that is 90 percent of the problem.
Back where I come from, even in cruddy old Boston,
Massachusetts where the drivers are as aggressive as they get, the roundabouts
worked very, very well. But they are much, much larger than that little
dinky thing out there.
Reply: The design intent was to follow the English model for
modern roundabouts. Traffic circles from other places have design
standards that are different from the intent of the Southport Drive
project. Learn
about the differences between old-style traffic circles and modern roundabouts.
Comment:
I want to give you a positive comment about the traffic circles
in Alaska, here in Anchorage, specifically.
And I think they're a great idea.
And I'm sure a lot of people are giving you a lot of heat for
it, but I'm saying good job. Install
more of them. Save people time. They are better -- people do just as well
in them as they do in four-way stops.
And that's my opinion.
Comment:
Those roundabouts are, I think, excellent.
I drove around in Africa, kind of got used to them. And I know in Cape Town and also in London,
you don't have to stop, you know. But,
you know, you can slow down. And
it's kind of a fast deal. But
I notice over there after people got used to them -- there's one in
Cape Town that was like -- it must have been probably ten or 12 lanes. And it was the center. And there was quite a few intersections there.
And I was amazed at how well people, after they got
used to it, were able to zip around in that thing accident-free. I'd
like to see more of them. They keep traffic flowing better and, I think,
ultimately are safer. We have
people running through these stop signs.
Comment:
I'm commenting about your roundabout plan.
It stinks. You know, you
can do a lot better than that if you're an engineer.
So that's my opinion.
Comment:
I have a comment about the roundabout and the problems with people
speeding, I guess, on Southport. The
solution to that would be have the overpaid police department that we
have to set out there with radar guns and write people tickets.
And just, you know, generally hit people where it hurts the worst,
and that's their pocketbook. Instead of raising
or lowering the speed limit or trying to come up with some kind of new-fangled
idea that's not going to work, traffic control is best done by the presence
of police officers. And we have
the highest paid police officers in the nation. Let's make them do their jobs, get out there
and write some tickets.
Reply: Modern Roundabouts have been found to save lives
and property damage over other forms of intersections.
Please
see the Insurance Institute study (ADOBE
PDF FORMAT). Enforcement is important,
but the accident statistics on intersections converted to modern roundabouts
in the U.S. is compelling.
Comment:
I was born and raised
in Anchorage. I live in Big Lake
now. I've never driven on a roundabout,
but I'm going to go drive on the one that we have here in Anchorage
right now. And I think they're
the greatest thing since Hershey bars. Just the concept alone is terrific. I don't know why people are having problems.
I think you ought to replace every four-way stop in town with
a roundabout.
Comment:
I live out in Wasilla. I
used to live in Dallas, Texas, where they had one of these Russian roulette
wheels. And they didn't work down there and I don't
know why they would work up here in the snow.
They are very dangerous, stupid and illogical to have in the
snow. You know, whoever came
up with this idea, obviously hasn't driven in one before. Because in Dallas, they had wrecks in them
constantly. And up here, I guess
you guys are having wrecks in them constantly.
And that ought to be enough to tell you they don't work.
Reply: The design intent was to follow the English model
for modern roundabouts. Traffic circles from other places, including
Dallas have design standards that are different from the intent of the
Southport Drive project. Learn
about the differences between old-style traffic circles and modern roundabouts.
Modern roundabouts have an excellent safety record.
To learn about accident statistics at American intersections
hat have been converted to modern roundabouts, please
see the Insurance Institute study (ADOBE
PDF FORMAT).
Comment:
I went over there and looked at the roundabout.
I've ridden on the roundabout that they have in Edmonton, Alberta
and there's one in Alton, Illinois that I drive around once in a while. And I see the problem with what you got over
there, it's too small. It's like
a little miniature thing, like you ought to fold it up and take it over
to the Planning Commission to see if you can get the plans improved. Or else you should take your kids over there
in their tricycles and let them play on it. It should be about four times that big around.
And there shouldn't be any obstruction in the middle of it
so you can't see all vehicles that are in it.
You don't need a flower pot in the middle of it so you can't
see. And over there, there's some big houses over
there and I'm sure there will be some big moving trucks over there that
need to get around this thing. I
mean, they work good if they're big enough, but this is way too small. But I suppose if you'd made it bigger, then
you'd have lost the space for a house site.
Reply: The design intent was to follow the English model for
modern roundabouts. Traffic circles from other places have design
standards that are different from the intent of the Southport Drive
project. Learn about
the differences between old-style traffic circles and modern roundabouts.
Design guides for modern roundabouts suggest blocking the vision in
the middle of the central island. Entering
a modern roundabout is almost exactly like turning right at a red light. A driver needs to look off to the left, recognize
a gap in traffic, and then proceed.
The vision is blocked across the intersection because that traffic
can not come all the way around the central island in the length of
time required for you to clear the intersection.
The design guides suggest blocking the vision to help prevent
indecision at the YIELD line.

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